A year long study by the Marine Corps found that all male units performed better than squads that were mixed gendered. All male units were faster, more lethal, and more capable of evacuating casualties. All male squadrons performed better than 69% across the board at hitting targets, climbing obstacles, and also avoiding injuries. Cenk Uygur, Ana Kasparian (The Point), Ben Mankiewicz (What The Flick?!), and Wes Clark Jr. hosts of The Young Turks discuss.
Do you agree with the study? Should women be allowed to serve on the front lines? Let us know in the comments below.
Read more here: http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/09/10/439190586/marine-corps-study-finds-all-male-combat-units-faster-than-mixed-units
“A yearlong Marine Corps study trying to understand how gender integration would affect combat readiness has found that all-male units were faster, more lethal and able to evacuate casualties in less time.
Overall, according to a summary of the study, all-male squads performed better than mixed groups in 69 percent of the tasks evaluated.”
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Basic biology. Men , on average, are stronger than women. Being a marine is hard. Can a woman do it. Yes. Will the average woman do as well as an average man, unlikely. Does this mean a woman is not as worthy as a man. NO. Basic biology.
The problem is with the basic thought.
Working in harmony, dividing works among self which better suits one over the other, that's what it should have been.
But no.. Some want to equal in every step, and that leads to achieving nothing. Only chaos.
What are you arguing here? They can't perform some tasks as well as men! They're trying so hard to refute that, but even their stupid minds knows that it is hard to dispute biological facts. In conclusion, this video is pointless
I have heard people talking shit about cenk. I didn´t know him back then so I watched a bunch of his videos, this being the last one. I can say with confidence now that I think this man is a GIANT dipshit.
For ducks sake.
You don’t even need to look at the report the Marines came up with (as useful as it is)
Look at the Spartans. The men went to battle and to fight. The women stayed back to tend to family and life at home.
It’s just how nature works. And that’s ok.
Dudes...and Anna, are you kidding? Many more than 2 women have finished ranger training. My daughter is 100 lbs soaking wet and tough as nails. She did it. And any able officer would not let the women in a unit off the hook for not carrying their gear. Your unit must’ve sucked as bad as your memory, man. The rest of you, pull your heads out and look around- outside your damn bubble.
Here is how we can make it simple, keep the standards the same. Anyone who doesnt meet the requirements gets dropped, man or woman. Simple as that, if women dont make the cut it's not sexism its biology
American's are sexually driven especially men and women are becoming just as bad.. I believe it's absolutely a distraction and risk having mixed units.. . I believe in Zero Special Treatment .. If women are allowed on the front line it's absolute crap to see other men pulling their weight.. Men & Women in a war situation must hold their own ... Their success depends on it.
I had a friend in the Navy .. most her crew on any down time tried to flirt or have sex with her and she told me no matter where they went she had a bit of power over them and she knew she distracted them. - She left the Navy because she felt she was a risk and at risk both.
The incentive would have been their own safety.
...but they wouldn't need to do any fabrication to reveal how much safer a group of men fighting is than a mixed group or...(FOOD FOR THOUGHT COMING UP)
A group of all females.
Ask yourself: Why wouldn't anyone with the task of compiling a combat group in any form of military avoid a group entirely made up of females?
If a woman can not cope with the physical effects of mensuration them how are they expected to hump a full combat load, an assault pack loaded with food and ammo, and if shit hits the fan, their buddy’s gear.
I know firefighters who also don't believe that women should be along side them for the same reason they shouldn't be on the battlefield.
If a 250+ lbs fireman is out cold, someone better be able to drag his ass to safety and as Ana said on the "What Really Turns Women On" video, women are just physically weaker.
Political correctness has ZERO place in life & death situations.
You know.... I've been out of active duty since 1980. The way cenk said "Marines" really pissed me off. I love having the right to be called a Retired Marine. And I was by no.means a "Lifer" or overly Gung Ho. 6 year enlistment 0311. 4 yrs active duty , E 5. But I did not like that eye roll when he said Marine. Its something I hold dear. It has deep meaning for me. Especially these days when all the things we joined for are under attack. The Ex Ranger has the right to talk smack if he wants of course. But cenk...if I said "Muslim" the way u said "Marine" you would be pissed.
I noticed there were no women in the World Cup this year, even though they are eligible to play if they make the team. Not the other way around though, men are not allowed to play in women's soccer no matter what.
Women don't belong in the Infantry. Not only are they detrimental to the fitness, and readiness of the unit, they're also detrimental to the culture, and esprit de corps. There is a certain culture that exists within the Infantry that help men cope with that type of dangerous, and stressful job. With all of the EO nonsense these days that culture is being censored, and standards are being lowered across the board to help women fit in somewhere where they do not belong.
Why is it so hard for these people to accept that men are stronger and faster than women. Its simple biology, having 30+% more muscle mass on average is going to give you advantages in specific areas. The military is one of those areas. The military is a place for the best people possible to defend our countries and when it comes to front-line service men are better than women. The military is not a place to be enforcing affirmative action nonsense and political correctness. This isn't to say women can't have an integral role in the military, they can be strategists, engineers, doctors etc... As for the guy in the video who said I believe they are passing the minimum requirements, they aren't. The minimum requirements is to be able to do 3 pull ups, the military found out that well over 50% of women couldn't even reach that mark and decided to lower the requirements. That doesn't seem very reasonable to me, if I'm injured on the front line and I need someone to help evacuate me, I want someone who is capable of carrying my weight.
Men have also shown consistently to outperform women in reaction time tests and hand-eye coordination. Men have superior spatial relation skills which makes them more adept navigators and superior in mathematics and physics which is particularly useful when determining projectile trajectory.
I love how cenk can call a lot of the marines “knuckleheads” when there aren’t any around. Those “knuckleheads” as you put it are far more intelligent than your ignorant liberal ass. It’s clear the only exercises he ever did was stretching the truth and jumping to conclusions
You don't have to be taking up for women they can't do what a man can do just like a man can't do what a woman can do we need to put these f****** women back in their place put these faget man back in they place just live our life
Let me guess women aren’t the same as men after all.. when are these mf going to get it... maybe in a position of Ceo or something else okay.. but when it comes to physical activity women are not the same as man ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.. i would like to see this mf in the line depending on women having to carry him!! GTFOH
Im all for women being in the military just not combat roles maybe logistics, cooks, engineers etc etc i wouldnt even care if they were out guarding fobs and shit but out running with the big dogs would be rough even mote men
I’m not saying force it, but my cousin was a college athlete and a bad ass captain in the army, with 4 deployments under her belt. However antidotal it may be, I’m saying some can others can’t. Up the standards and see who makes it so what if it’s only two women that make it , do something to change it, just give them the opportunity to try. It’s not like historical there hasn’t been any female warriors.
"According to this extensive study, women in the military do not perform physically as well as men." Yeah, no shit Sherlock. I wonder how much of our tax dollars were used to pay for this useless study.
Think they ignored another important statistic when comparing men and women... mental fitness in combat. A women can be mentally superior to men or on par or worse on pretty even ratios... but their resiliency to combat stress isnt nearly as high as a standard males. Men are generally far better at being able to cope with combat stress and women generally have a much harder time coping. Thus in a situation where its their first time in an actual combat situation, theyre more likely to drag the unit down than the meek dude to your right.
Reminds me when I was in school back in 93 our class about 30 students i would say number of boys and girls was about half did a cross country run roughly the 1st 10 people finish were all boys that finished in small groups or individually the rest came back in one massive group.
Men are biologically stronger than women and meaner, and easier to dehumanize, and culturally more expected to die for anybody, but some women can do the same thing. We cant let somebody in if they can't do the obstacle course or endure the horrors and suffering that is war, even if they're a women but some, even most women are capable of they put there minds to it.
NOOOO, you don't SAY.
Also, I can't believe the irony they are missing here. They wanted women to be able to serve combat roles, but when most aren't up to the task, they are confused as to how they are making it through.
They are making it because of the gender quotas that they themselves wanted. Men and women need to serve the roles they are qualified for, not by free handouts.
The way it is: I’ve met men in the Marine Corps. who were clearly unfit to hold infantry roles. On the flip side, I have NOT met a woman in the USMC who can perform better than these unfit male marines.
Do I believe women are unfit for combat? Not at all. Women have proven in history they are 100% capable. But the difference in physicality must be accepted as innate and not serve to bring down USMC physical standards.
If a woman can hack the men’s standards for the infantry, then hell yeah. Bring her in. She earned it. Otherwise, POG job.
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