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A village in Pakistan ordered a revenge rape. Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian break it down. Find out your utility's clean energy score. Tell them you care about renewable options. http://inconvenientsequel.com/action “ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — The Pakistani police arrested 25 people in a rural village on Thursday, after the village council ordered a man to rape a teenage girl publicly to avenge the sexual assault of his sister. This month the council told Mohammad Ashfaq, 20, to rape the 16-year-old girl after Mr. Ashfaq’s family accused her brother of raping Mr. Ashfaq’s 12-year-old sister, the police said. The case was brought to the attention of the police in Punjab Province after the 16-year-old’s mother reported that Mr. Ashfaq had carried out the rape on July 18 in Muzaffarabad, a village near the city of Multan. Some members of the council were present at the time of the rape, according to a complaint that the girl’s mother filed with the police. The so-called honor rape, or vengeance rape, occurred after the council ruled that the rape of a minor family member was a fair punishment for the suspected rape of the 12-year-old.” Read more here: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/27/world/asia/pakistan-girl-rape-council-arrest.html Hosts: Cenk Uygur, Ana Kasparian Cast: Cenk Uygur, Ana Kasparian *** The Largest Online News Show in the World. Hosted by Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian. LIVE STREAMING weekdays 6-8pm ET. http://www.tytnetwork.com/live Subscribe to The Young Turks on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/subscription_center?add_user=theyoungturks Like The Young Turks on Facebook: http://facebook.com/theyoungturks Follow The Young Turks on Twitter: http://twitter.com/theyoungturks Buy TYT Merch: http://www.shoptyt.com Download audio and video of the full two hour show on-demand + the members-only post game show by becoming a member at http://www.tytnetwork.com/join/. Your membership supports the day to day operations and is vital for our continued success and growth. Young Turk (n), 1. Young progressive or insurgent member of an institution, movement, or political party. 2. A young person who rebels against authority or societal expectations.(American Heritage Dictionary)
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Scot R (7 месяцев назад)
religion of peace... lmfo.
shadowofaday100 (1 год назад)
Pakistan officially cares more about rape than America apparently. If this happened here and was done by white people, they probably wouldn't ever get arrested. Everyone here should be shot.
Kilgore Trout (1 год назад)
sounds like some serious islamaphobia here to me. who are you people to pass judgement on islam?
Keegan Carney (1 год назад)
lol you seriously just compared fundamentalist Islam with American conservativism. I wondered why the young Turks show is viewed as a joke.
Michael Jacobs (1 год назад)
Inbred, backwater Chistians won't sell you a cake and will laugh through their one tooth at you if they disagree with you. Muslims will scream like banshees on acid and remove your head from your shoulders if they disagree with you. "Not all Muslims" you say? Well certainly enough of them.
Simmius The First (1 год назад)
What people have to understand is things like Human rights and private liberties are inventions of the west and are hard to apply to non Western cultures
NO3- (1 год назад)
LITERALLY rape culture
AMK 347 (1 год назад)
Not all cultures are equal.
Scot Chatterson (1 год назад)
Rape is never okay.
LOON (1 год назад)
This is *ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING* what they did to this little girl, and if you don't think so, you're a disgusting person. This is not open for debate, this is a fact. >:T I'm glad every single one of those people got arrested and I hope they rot in prison.
jaelynn zee (1 год назад)
US not much better! In the US, teen girls are either raped or coerced by older "boys" (statutory rape) and 200K teen girls are forced to marry these men b/c of family. End child marriage in the US. Press your local gov to raise the age of marriage in the US from TWELVE to 18. This is a SICK part of US culture and the Catholic "church" is lobbying against it b/c they are complicit and admitted they'd be bankrupted by lawsuits! See the NJ church leader interview for that..
karkovice10 (1 год назад)
Now I've heard of "an eye for an eye", but THIS is ridiculous! :P
Sayuas (1 год назад)
Let's bring these progressive people to europe like the lefties want.
J. Ho (1 год назад)
Its so sickening and disgusting, words fail me!!! Or maybe not, I say castrate the lot of them and feed their organs back to them, raw!
Darkbulb1 (1 год назад)
so was it stopped before it occurred?
John Smith (1 год назад)
It's completely fucked up logic, but Cenk and Ana are not seeing what this fucked up ruling is about. The rapist raped somebody's sister, so the punishment for him is that his sister gets raped. In Pakistan, a girl getting raped brings dishonor on her family. So the original raped girl's brother got shamed, so now he gets to shame the original rapist by raping that guy's sister. It's hideous, but that's the idea.
Yehuda Berlinger (1 год назад)
@TYT I'm surprised you completely missed the point here. The local council had no interest in the raped woman or her feelings, or the feelings of the woman they raped in turn. This was not about the woman being at fault. The crime was not rape, but dishonoring the family. The man dishonored family X, so the punishment was to have the man's family dishonored. This is part of the honor killing culture; life, identify, individual rights, and so forth are not significant parts of the culture. If anything, the problem is far deeper than you appear to have understood.
Skyler Grey // A Star Is Born (1 год назад)
How disgusting is this! Someone go kill these people PLEASE! Honestly, who rules that young girls should get rape?! What goes through their heads!!
JuL3r (1 год назад)
This just shows that backwards societies don't care about women and definitely don't regard them as equal, but as property to men and families. It's disgusting!
drnostalgia1 (1 год назад)
this a horrific story! it is sickening in every way. however, it is also sickening all the racism and bigotry against all muslims because of something positively anti-islamic. it is stated in the Quran clearly that no transgression by one person could be blamed on another . this is an outrageous rural south Asian tradition or custom that should not only be condemned but dealt with firm secular law banning that prohibits any repeat of such a haneous act of it, in all religions.
Joe Gallop (1 год назад)
TO ALL THE PEOPLE TAKING THE OPPORTUNITY TO VILIFY ISLAM AND MUSLIMS the banks your tax money bailed out while ignoring homeowners and students has about 00.00% muslims owners keep that in mind while youre a debt slave to israel
Joe Gallop (1 год назад)
omg indians are crazy ... cant they just do a shot gun wedding like normal people? @2:25 you guys blame religion but ignore the fact from asia to albania there are family feuds that have lasted centuries going on to this day... credo eye for an eye. kids growing up in total isolation out of fear is norm but you guys rather do halfassed assessments as if sociologists smh fake news
Andrew Kim (1 год назад)
GTVS (1 год назад)
No issue with this just fair
William Froh (1 год назад)
And why do let Pakistani to migrate to our country. bet those council members get a slap on the wrist and the next council in the next village will just do the same thing but with less publicly
where do you signup to get to be the ones who bangs the 16 yr old -genk
tyt conveniently left out the fact the 16 yr old girl help lure the 12 yr old into a allwy so her brother could rape her which is why the council decided on that punishment fuckin libtards
Pomfromoz (1 год назад)
Religion is the opiate of the ignorant... all of it...
Ajay Mittal (1 год назад)
those arrested will be released after some time...that is the culture of Pakistan's administration.
Mikel Campbell (1 год назад)
religion is cancer not just islum or christions
Suchitoto El Salvador (1 год назад)
Ignorance and a fucked up religion, what do you expect.
Exiled Summoner (1 год назад)
holy shit...
Make Black Men Great Again! (1 год назад)
yall..we are in the infancy of human existence..we are still pretty much cave men..we still have alot of evolving to do..we are going to grow out of this.. but this is fucked up
Joy Phillips (1 год назад)
Is this new to TYT? .... We have been warning the left what would happen if Islam grew in the US.....
Jason Jones (1 год назад)
Insanity and evil in its purest form.
Mike Mentzer (1 год назад)
this is everyday stuff in muslim countries. why do you think trump doesn't want them over here
Le F (1 год назад)
It's easy to tell others what to do even during the days when Jesus walked the Earth and remember how the people caught the woman in a sexual crime then brought her to Jesus  to approvce of the judgement to stone her to death Hoever Jesus quietly remenbered each of them of their sins and now that the shoe is on the other foot that justice against that young lady wasn't as important as they made it out to be.
Zero II (1 год назад)
And the left wants the mass migration that lets people like this in?
bot botovich (1 год назад)
how on earth this is about Islam? if it is Pakistani "culture" that doesn't mean that Muslims from any other country ( with its own unique culture) would support this ugly behavior. and I'm sure that even in Pakistan a lot of people are disgust of this type of news...
deharleyva (1 год назад)
It also shows that the barbarians only see the girl as a commodity. This boy took a commodity from another family, a virgin girl, so we will take something from another family, a virgin girl. It's sick.
*3:05** It's Opposites Day for TYT.*
Faustino Asprilla (1 год назад)
Maybe the feminists should be marching in Pakistan.
Faustino Asprilla (1 год назад)
What a beautiful culture.....jajajajajjajajaj Let's bring these gems over to America. Diversity is our strength jajajjajajaj
T C (1 год назад)
Ana and Cenk don't get that raping the sister makes her dirty in the villages eyes, and her brother has to look at her everyday and see how badly she gets treated, and know that he is the cause of her suffering and the likelihood of her being shunned. It's probably a worse punishment than going to jail for a while.
tyrongkojy (1 год назад)
In two days the trolls will be back claiming TYT condones this stuff, as long as it's Islam.
Alaa Ballan (1 год назад)
please save us from this stupid coment on this horrobile act!!!! that was because of tradition there not because of they were muslim. I am sick and tierd of this stupid ass World in it stupids do and the others respond by blaming religion, the problem is ignorance not religion
kpop lover (1 год назад)
Ric Schmeelk (1 год назад)
Let's not forget that marrying your rapist is also in the Christian Bible.
dancinkindofguy (1 год назад)
Ric Schmeelk yeah, that long ago absconded practice makes it okay for Muslims to do mass gang rape in 2017.
100philosopher (1 год назад)
But I thought white people are the source of all evil. Why isn't TYT blaming this on whites? What the hell? This is racist against Muslims. Never forget that white people forced them to be savages because colonization, or something!
thewolfpack (1 год назад)
Nothing to do with Islam... Religion of Peace.
Arya (1 год назад)
Human societies have not progressed evenly all across the planet. In some parts of the world and among some communities it is still 2000 BC or even 10000 BC. Also the problem here is tribal mentality. They do not see people as individuals, you are defined by the tribe, or clan you belong to. The sister is not considered a separate person from her brother. This is how they see it: Family A damaged Family B and so the same type of damage should happen to family A.
PIZACLATON DDD (1 год назад)
Disgusting people defending rape culture in the comments be warned
Just That (1 год назад)
Gotta love all the comments. I remember way back when ole massas would casually stroll and wonder what nigg*r am I gonna git off on today
blackceazer21 (1 год назад)
what kind of backwards nonsense is this ??
Curly73 (1 год назад)
Where is the United Nations?
Mememe A (1 год назад)
Lol you dont hear shit from the UN
Steven Bee (1 год назад)
Pretty despicable... but take care of your own house first. The US executes the mentally handicapped for crimes they cannot be held accountable for, and tortures foreigners for political vengeance.
Steven Bee (1 год назад)
I don't put the odd random nasty comment on a Youtube video in the same league as either ruling the actual rape of an innocent person, or the state actually executing a mentally handicapped person as punishment for what they do not have culpability for doing.
dancinkindofguy (1 год назад)
Steven Bee and TYT fans call for the death of public servants, dont forget THAT as long as we're gonna deflect from muslims
Xeno Phon (1 год назад)
well... the going hypothesis is that they did it to prevent two families from going into a mutual blood feud. The second rape might have been seen as deescalation and an attempt to keep the peace.
How To Heal (1 год назад)
Those people who did that to girl should be murdered
marti-grecia Odalyz (1 год назад)
what do i think? HOW BARBARIC CAN A CULTURE GET_that is it
Mohammad Shuaib Hussain (1 год назад)
So you don't talk about the part where the police arrested them. It is clearly illegal and a punishable offense in Pakistan. When rapes happen in the US, people are arrested for it. The same happened here.
dancinkindofguy (1 год назад)
Mohammad Hussain where have you ever seen a large group gang rape somebody in US. Face it, this is about Islamic values, NOT the legal system.
Gad Yariv (1 год назад)
Pakistan is just a backward shit hell. the culture of central Asian Muslim countries such as Pakistan and Afganistan are not indicative of all Muslim countries. as an Isreali Atheist Jew, i have no incentive to defend Islam, but such things don't happen in my 'neighborhood', things like that don't happen in any of the Muslim majority countries that share a border with Israel, with ISIL in Syria as the only exception...most Muslims are not savages, they do not condone such behavior this behavior is not indicative of all Muslim nations, it would be the same as examining the behavior and culture of white trash hicks in Mississippi resp[resent all Americans.
Moorland Wandering (1 год назад)
Tribal culture is utterly vile.
Ricky Grimez (1 год назад)
has it crossed your mind a 15 year old boy having sex with a rival families daughter in a village without permission might be what they consider rape. Kind of lime our Statutory Rape laws. It may have been a consensual relationship being condemned by law. so I think the arrangement to appease the grievance was a civil social reciprocity ordered. The fact they supervised the act may be to ensure no unholy acts are committed. basically if your daughter has her virginity taken they lose value for arranged marriages. the restitution may have been to soil the boys family daughter. village laws are old and weird but I would be cautious is assuming the story factual. think who might even be involved that would have reported this to news or police outside of the village? was it one of the families involved. because the complaining family would have accepted the verdict as fair. the family with the son doesn't benefit since he would surely be charged for the initial rape accusation. none of the council members would expose themselves. so could this be an old anecdote someone heard of later and being an outsider and appalled by the story reported it as a concerned citizen? I don't know. these international stories get tricky to trust or validate. we don't have enough culture education to view them without our American bias.
RHAddict (1 год назад)
You guys don't understand. They raped the 16 years old sister of the rapists because they think the rapist destroyed the 12 year old's family honor, and so they have to destroy the honor of the other family by raping their girl! They see women as the honor of the family (not in a good way), if the woman does something or even gets raped, that means she dishonored her family. That's why they ruled to have the girl raped instead of punishing the rapist. Tl; dr: Bunch of apes trying to figure out what justice is.
Christopher Cole (1 год назад)
That is supposed lame justification. What really happened is a bunch of dudes just had to hear about a young girl being raped, they wanted to see it, so they ordered it to happen again where they could watch, but they wanted one slightly older, because they aren't "savages" /eyeroll
Sinister Steel (1 год назад)
Nigel Suresh (1 год назад)
An Eye for an Eye. That was that they was trying to do. Not saying it was right. It is horrible.
Tech Know (1 год назад)
Hey - Cenk I don't think it's part of my culture, you only hurt my feelings by calling it my culture. This is a crime by horny perverts, nothing else and should be punished to the fullest and all society should condemn this.
Pachice (1 год назад)
Sadly, stories like this aren't uncommon... man screws up, rape his sister... because that's fair... then kill her, of course, because she isn't pure
Rana Muhammad Khan (1 год назад)
Yes I totally agree with you.
serioushamster (1 год назад)
In tribal societies, women are concerned he 'honor; of the family.One boy hurt the 'honor' of another family by raping one of their women.So 'justice' demands that the accused family's girl gets raped.Again all of this is against Islam; there is no concept of The Sins of The Father stuff.
rpurdey (1 год назад)
They don't get it? Females are property, like, say, a car. If you come over here and scratch my car it's only fair for me to go over there and scratch your car.
Trump Troll (1 год назад)
ducking assholes. the shit that goes on in these countries is f-ing barbaric
Addy Diesel (1 год назад)
This is nearly as bad as long term rape practised by Austrian Josef Fritzl, Americans: Phillip Garrido, Ariel Castro, Germans: Detlef S, Adolf Bergbauer, Scottish: John , Australian: unnamed fritzl. Even if those long term rapers practised for more than 10 years each, no wait i regard revenge rape worse because it is indiscriminate
V Ling (1 год назад)
Tyrion Lannister (1 год назад)
That is real life Game of Throne right there
nakrat11 (1 год назад)
Sounds about right for yet another Islamic hellhole. I wonder how a "tiny minority of extremists" all ended up on the village council?
Indraja Salunkhe (1 год назад)
This is disgusting.....
Ben Sama (1 год назад)
It sounds like Hammurabi's code. eye for an eye, rape for a rape
annibell way (1 год назад)
3:10 I don't think they were blaming the girl. Rather I think it was more of an eye for an eye, or girl's rape for a girl's rape. I see how the decision was made although I don't approve or think it was appropriate.
Taylor Delma (1 год назад)
That is not justice at all and very disgusting
Ryne Green (1 год назад)
Why not rape the brother if he is the guilty one?
anon for good (1 год назад)
"This council" - I think this council is a "Sharia council". Part of the governing system of Islam. A religion that the young turks frequently tell us is wonderful. "Stuck in the stone age". Entirely correct. The Islamic religion certainly is stuck in its barbaric past. So tell me what does the Islamic religion call it when you dont tell the whole story? The Hadith makes it clear that Muslims are allowed to lie to unbelievers in order to defeat them or protect themselves. There are several forms: Kitman - Lying by omission. An example would be when Muslim apologists quote only a fragment of verse 5:32 (that if anyone kills "it shall be as if he had killed all mankind") while neglecting to mention that the rest of the verse (and the next) mandate murder in undefined cases of "corruption" and "mischief." Taqiyya - Saying something that isn't true as it relates to the Muslim identity. Tawriya - Intentionally creating a false impression. Muruna - 'Blending in' by setting aside some practices of Islam or Sharia in order to advance others. Kitman - Ommision of the fact that this revenge rape was probably ordered by those in that village that enforce Sharia. Taqiyya - Your making out that maltreatment of women isn't part of Islamic culture. Tawriya - Your creating the impression that this maltreatment of women is how "they" may have done things in the past. Not of course, how they do things now. Muruna - You are setting aside the absolute abominable way Islam treats women in order to make other Islamic practices seem more palatable. The young Turks. Liars for Islam.
Javier Lopez (1 год назад)
Morals are pretty obvious... nevertheless, what weight does a "council ruling" has as a law? I know, I must sound as a bastard for even making the question, but given that said community is pretty messed up for actually "solving" issues in such a Hammurabian way, IT IS THE LAW which must change first.
God satan (1 год назад)
there's your rape culture
Chris Ruiz (1 год назад)
why didn't they just rape the rapist instead of his sister
Baraz (1 год назад)
Just a nuance : we do not really know how elders in that village would have judged 100 years ago. We could be surprised. Just an example : in Saudi Arabia, it is told by older women that they use to have much more power and rights about 35 years ago, but the present day theocrats and regime will deny it ever was. So what is really the tradition, or rather the traditions that changed a number of times over the centuries, is often unknown.
Darryl Smith (1 год назад)
I can not think even think this one through you talk about relious courts in other countries but it is also happening in the US , Not court ordered but done just the same.
xbertocoaylax (1 год назад)
Some cultures are just stupid.
Richard Alexander (1 год назад)
The first brother should have been castrated by his victim.
Victor Savo (1 год назад)
Fun fact: these savages who live by these barbaric rules in Pakistan have ballistic missiles with nuclear warheads too. Yay!
Victor Savo (1 год назад)
I think we need more of this peaceful culture in the West! Let's become more diverse! Religion of peace my a$$! With the growing Pakistani community one can see why the number if acid attacks are soaring in the UK.
Gordon Woodroffe (1 год назад)
What about the 20 year old rapist of the 16 year old !
Tasneem A (1 год назад)
Why are people saying that this has any basis in Islam, this has absolutely nothing to do with religion, like at all. This is just backwards, disgusting, cultural crap. So take your misinformed bigotry somewhere else.
A54321 (1 год назад)
Oh Pakistan. Shocking. The middle East, Muslim, Terror riddled country. Keep letting these refugees in though. Thats smart.
Taffy O'Keefe (1 год назад)
But a female Canadian politician went on Bill Maher and said their culture is no worse than any other culture. Was she lying?
Randy Steele (1 год назад)
Stop critizing Muslims! Dats racisss yo!
wiz9496 (1 год назад)
Ask a woman if she wants to play the rape game. If she says "no", tell her "that's the spirit".
The Real Kisht (1 год назад)
I'm not a lizard (1 год назад)
But are traps gay?

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