"Finland's educational system. Fascinating thing about three decades ago Finland has an educational system that is doing terribly and they look around and they go okay what are we going to do about this, we gotta revamp the whole thing." Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian discuss the revolutionary educational system Finland has instituted and the results of that system on the education of their children.
Read more about it here: http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/12/what-americans-keep-ignoring-about-finlands-school-success/250564/
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Meanwhile Finland avoids competitiveness and the U.Ks whole marking system is you can only pass if other people have to fail
Something like this
Top 4% Grade Nine (our A*)
4-14% Grade eight (our A)
15 - 25 grade seven
And this goes on till you get to the bottom so people have to bad and fail for anyone to pass it could be that you get 200 out of 208 but 50% of people got even a mark or two higher, You now failed and you may to be tested next year or sometimes that’s it you failed .
NB NB TEXTING....WTF?? were the person texting this D R U N K? or are they a measurement of the educational level on americans? :P Kentuccy becomes conducting... seriously... ?? and there are so many more... L O L !!
You are too simple minded young turk. All about attention then seeing the whole picture. It was hard to listen to this simple understanding of a complex issue. Has nothing to do with either side the crazy congress. Need to brush up on the world more than 10 mins before the show.
Im Finnish the Finnish educational system is STUPID and produces educated dummies with no social skills who all want to be Artists, musicians why not astronauts, then they wake up as adult babies at 18 and expect jobs to fall at their feet, alot of student go on to be higher educated dummies with no applicable skills, in student debt for years and broken dreams and dependant on the state
The homogenous model has nothing to do with "they're all white." They are mostly the same race, yes. But also there's less of a wealth disparity, and mostly they're the same faith- you really should learn to look past race.
The Norwegians are more like the finns actually, we don't have tests that counts untill the last year at school(we only have exsams in 8-10 grade and only those in 10th grade counts. 8th- and 9th grade are only test years), and we don't bring them too school untill they are 6. I really think we in Norway should do just like Finland cause we are really close, we just should try to not compete that much.
To implement such a system, the Americans would have to give up something they don't want to give up. Even if you don't take the schooling system into account, Finland is still one of the most developed countries in the world. One should have a look on what the Finnish spend their money on and the Americans don't.
Norway is a bad example too. US is a far cry from any of the Scandinavian countries, or even eastern European countries, like it or not.
We compete in the real world. Yea, the school system here sucks, but because the damn bureaucracy that keeps things the same. Competing to be the best works.we just need to compete on real-world stuff rather than chemistry or gender studies.
I went to school in Finland and can tell that one thing that is a complete lie on this video: The system was NOT horrible before either. I came here 25 years ago and Finland was already ranked number ONE in the world in their educational system. To some people it's hard to admit the certain things just always remain so!
This guy is a liberal. Why is he automatically allowed to put words in the mouths of conservatives. We all know our educational institutions are all liberal taught and funded. Cenk is the worse kind of person just dismissing the other sides view and saying it disagrees with their view, with no responsibility of what he says.
I kindof respect you for that video. BTW Norway has even more trust, they have just shitty policy. So monoculture play a big role, but is not sufficent.
It would be even better, if it was not compulsory(meaning mandatory). Who says parents cant teach their kids? If you dont need to pay taxes for schools, more money stay in the pocket and maybe you can afford one parent to stay home. I wonder how it compares to kids who were homeschooled, or unschooled. In like happiness, social skills, conflict resolution skills, enterpreneurship, relationships etc.
Just one comment' Finland, Norway, Sweden...are NOT all "white" countries. Was there a few times....These countries have experienced a huge influx of immigrants in the last 30 years. They are also taking more refugees that the USA takes. Also college is completly free... No mandated preschool but high quality child care and preschool are available and basically free !!!
Why doesn't the American government do a study to find the top 10-20 best educational systems in the world and how different children learn? Then choose 10 school systems in each state across different social and economic lines to test the models and find out which are the best. Lastly encourage the use of the best. If higher and moderately performing school districts do not want to participate in the study, then offer the involvement to the worst performing schools in the nation.
The US government priority's are somewhat distant from a students education, therefore in order to improve our system more people need to bring attention to other schools around the world and how we could improve our system to make students more successful.
why not show some videos or images , while this was interesting to me i still felt likeni was watching the news broadcast maybe economics ... i got a bit bored. this could be constructive criticism , i want to help this channel grow , sorry if i crossed the line with this comment
I want to go to Finland. The education system is ruining my life. I was never a kid, it was always just pressure and stress and expectations. I can never rest, and I'm desperate. So if America believes it is the best country in the world, then how can they have such a poor education system? I absolutely despise it's education system!
I like how most people perceived socialism is bad but, most socialist countries are always on top 10 in most charts including; most transparent country, country with the best school system, happiest country in the world, etc....
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In Estonia, we have the same freaking system as Finland and in every subject we are better than USA. Estonia is like a little brother to finland, we work together and develope together.
Every right right headed Estonian and Finn knows that USA is brain washed. And we also know that most intelligent folks in USA are usaly people who have served in military. why? Well because they travel. They can see around the box what MOST folks in USA can´t do. USA is not nr1 not even close to it.
Hillary the warlord, and dumpTrump were your 2. best candidates for President. What does that say about you USA. NR1 NR1 NR1... goooshhh...
I've attended both private school and public school in America and to be honest, I preferred the public schooling. There's less pressure, and more freedom. And you're not paying 10 - 20 grand a year for it.
I'm really glad someone posted this video. I took my children out of public school(American public school) in 2016. They are thriving because of the methods used in homeschooling are very similar to that of the Finnish. I don't want my children to feel pressured to compete...I want them to know their purpose in life and be comfortable and happy with who they are. Homeschooling allows the parent and the child to established how they want to learn more in depth.
forget school, now u learn everything u need here at the, www. mather of fact, it would solve all of the eduction monetary problems of any system or any child..u goverments all they need to do is create labs where students of any age go and practice n create science models of any thing they r studing at home any time they want and after they master they own education,then in those same labs the teachers can give them its degrees after they paSS A TEST,,see no bull,no books ,no expenses to go every day to school, no need to buy so many clothes to be at school no lunch no teachers to pay for nothing,just study u subjets n line go practice at the labs then get u damn degree,, uupss im sorry 4 that word..see how easy it is..of curse u all know education is a bussiness nothing alse.. peace n love my childs
During my second year in junior high school I spent half a year as an exchange student in Germany and I can't really say that the schools were really that much different from the we have in Finland.
Some differences still existed: In Finland the students are on a familiar basis with the teachers, whereas in Germany teachers demand a certain formal modicum of respect. The school that I was attending in Germany was supposed to be more oriented towards natural sciences and in chemistry they were just learning things about organic chemistry that we were already taught years ago in junior high school. I ended up tutoring some of my German classmates.
Hohenlohe Gymnasium Öhringen, Ihr seid die beste! :)
I'm a Finn, and I have to clear out some of the things said here:
1. We DO have homework. Maybe not as much as in other countries and not everyone does it, but generally students are issued at least about an hour's worth of homework a day.
2. We DO have private schools. They have to abide by the same curricular standards as the public schools and don't really differ much from the public schools. They generally have pretty low tuition fees (about 800$/year) but are mostly funded by the government. They just don't receive funding on the municipal level.
3. Teachers AREN'T paid as well as doctors or lawyers. They are, however, well unionized in Finland and they still make a pretty decent living. Teachers also enjoy benefits such as the longest paid annual leave (over two months). Teachers also have at least a master's degree and the position is seen as relatively prestigious. Teacher education programs are also not the easiest ones to get into.
4. We DO have tests. At the end of each semester teachers conduct tests on the subjects learned. They, however, aren't standardized and are mainly composed by the teachers. At the end of middle school there are also tests that determine what type of high schools you can go to. At the end of high school they also take the national matriculation exams (the ones that go to senior high schools or gymnasia). Universities also have entrance exams
I'm currently studying 10th grade here in the Philippines. I've been schooled abroad my whole life, and I have to say there's a difference with the way they teach, how the time is spent, and how they bring knowledge to one's mind; but all's the same with the concept of competition. Everyone's mind is set on competing and climbing on each other to be the best, and that's something that will be inevitable. Basically, we're all fucked.
I live in France. The school day starts at 8 and finishes at 5, sometimes 6 in the secondary level. Long lunch. (3 ,hours when my kids were in nursery!) loads of homework, loads of stress. under international scores France doesn't do too well. Teachers are highly educated but very poorly paid and surprisingly there's a great shortage. Education is free and most private schools are very cheap by international standards.
I'm from Ghana.
Here, you start school after some months, like *15 months*. You'll be in school until you're somewhere *22*.
1.3 years old, you'll school till about 22 years. Let's do the maths
[You're 6 to 7 years by now]
Primary (grade 1 to 6): 6
Junior High School: 3
Senior High School: 3
[You're 18 now]
[You're 22 now]
[Wanna do masters?]
[You're 24 years now]
In general, that's the mathematics, and it just can be +1 or -1 depending on when you start Grade 1 (Primary School) earlier or not, or if you jump grades, which rarely happens.
Instead what frequently happens is repeating, so it'll more +1s
If I was old enough I would have a live TV broadcast trying to get school systems changed in the U.S.A. I may be in 7th grade, but I know what's going on. We're having disasters that could have easily been avoided. I'm debating running for president in 2040 (if the United States hasn't been destroyed yet).
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