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Finland's Revolutionary Education System

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"Finland's educational system. Fascinating thing about three decades ago Finland has an educational system that is doing terribly and they look around and they go okay what are we going to do about this, we gotta revamp the whole thing." Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian discuss the revolutionary educational system Finland has instituted and the results of that system on the education of their children. Read more about it here: http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/12/what-americans-keep-ignoring-about-finlands-school-success/250564/ Subscribe to The Young Turks: http://bit.ly/eWuu5i The Largest Online New Show in the World. Google+: http://www.gplus.to/TheYoungTurks Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/theyoungturks Twitter: http://twitter.com/theyoungturks
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RAGE TNT EXPLODER (2 месяца назад)
My dad thinks finish school system is the worst and all people in Finland are uneducated and there is not a stable government and every one is an alcoholic And whenever I prove him wrong he punishes me badly and shouts at me that im stupid retarded unable to do anything and that they will kick me out of the house Even though im in the HTL in austria that is a school for Hotel and tourist management and for cooking.
Orwennes (5 месяцев назад)
Thanks to Chinese education, I got serious depression, I want to suicide every day.
Sonny Holman (6 месяцев назад)
Uhhh. I live in Finland and go to a private school?
Pete Gromov (7 месяцев назад)
Then Finland got Juha Sipilä as prime minister and all that success is long gone. Juha Sipilä is the Donald Trump of Finland.
Miss Amazon (8 месяцев назад)
Finland is one of those places where women & men are 50 50 in the minds of all!!
Sé Halligan (8 месяцев назад)
Meanwhile Finland avoids competitiveness and the U.Ks whole marking system is you can only pass if other people have to fail Something like this Top 4% Grade Nine (our A*) 4-14% Grade eight (our A) 15 - 25 grade seven And this goes on till you get to the bottom so people have to bad and fail for anyone to pass it could be that you get 200 out of 208 but 50% of people got even a mark or two higher, You now failed and you may to be tested next year or sometimes that’s it you failed .
Quanta Ali Ahmed Jan (8 месяцев назад)
I am happy to see that I am not the only person who feels uncomfortable in present day education education system ....there are many more and what they think and do is right....
Quanta Ali Ahmed Jan (8 месяцев назад)
whenever there is competition in education system there would be no understanding
FC_ Quazz (9 месяцев назад)
No testing? We've had tests that decides our future since age 10 *WHAT*
dt28469 (9 месяцев назад)
Even Americans know Americans suck
LeNa (9 месяцев назад)
NB NB TEXTING....WTF?? were the person texting this D R U N K? or are they a measurement of the educational level on americans? :P Kentuccy becomes conducting... seriously... ?? and there are so many more... L O L !!
Ms Spears (9 месяцев назад)
You are too simple minded young turk. All about attention then seeing the whole picture. It was hard to listen to this simple understanding of a complex issue. Has nothing to do with either side the crazy congress. Need to brush up on the world more than 10 mins before the show.
Tony Lohi (10 месяцев назад)
Im Finnish the Finnish educational system is STUPID and produces educated dummies with no social skills who all want to be Artists, musicians why not astronauts, then they wake up as adult babies at 18 and expect jobs to fall at their feet, alot of student go on to be higher educated dummies with no applicable skills, in student debt for years and broken dreams and dependant on the state
Bob Rolander (10 месяцев назад)
Betsey De Vos has 417 fake accounts to vote this down.
Jacob Votava (11 месяцев назад)
The homogenous model has nothing to do with "they're all white." They are mostly the same race, yes. But also there's less of a wealth disparity, and mostly they're the same faith- you really should learn to look past race.
Hassanah Bakdounsi (11 месяцев назад)
Let the girl talk dude!! :p
Timbrock1000 (1 год назад)
No private schools allowed? Oh, the Government wants to hold the education monopoly so that kids will do, say, and think whatever "BIG BROTHER" tells them!
Amber Duncan (1 год назад)
I'm A conservative and I agree with the way they run the schools in Finland. Thanks for making an assumption. Jerk.
SYED ADEEL HUSSAIN (1 год назад)
Nordic Nations stand out! they really..do . They have the best social protection and safety nets anaywhere.
Roppis (1 год назад)
It's funny to watch this as a Finn. We do have pre-school though, but it's pretty much no different from daycare.
Coonstar (1 год назад)
Im not really convinced. It sounds like they are learning nothing and then be the best of the world and they didnt even expect that. Something seems fishy here.
Justin Chan (1 год назад)
Self learning and collaboration is the forever best system
jamie davies (1 год назад)
American education people!! Finland is neither a similar size to kentucky and it's not "next door" to Norway per say since Sweden is jammed in between the two nations.
Anniken Lien (1 год назад)
The Norwegians are more like the finns actually, we don't have tests that counts untill the last year at school(we only have exsams in 8-10 grade and only those in 10th grade counts. 8th- and 9th grade are only test years), and we don't bring them too school untill they are 6. I really think we in Norway should do just like Finland cause we are really close, we just should try to not compete that much.
Derlis G. Gaona (1 год назад)
i am so very happy for the Finnish kids and so sad for me... hahaha
The f2p Pyro (1 год назад)
I'm generally very republican leaning but this is a great idea
1483 (1 год назад)
It's funny that americans on nii vitun ällöttäviä torakoita, hyissattana.
Gilian Rüsterholz (1 год назад)
The subtitles are not much better than the auto-generated subtitles.
Richard Underwood (1 год назад)
Equal results = Communism Equal Opportunity = The American Dream I strongly disagree with banning private schools though.
Annie Ma (1 год назад)
Why all the world admire education in Finland but they still keep their's old ways education??
Ronsku Poika (1 год назад)
You're wrong becouse i am finnish and i went to school when i was six years old.
Tirppa Yo (1 год назад)
I'm from Finland I'M LUCKYYY
Ellahluja (1 год назад)
Suomi perkeleee!!!
1-800- SAVE-RYAN-ROSS (1 год назад)
America sucks
Putting a price on education creates stupidity.
Antun Katona (1 год назад)
To implement such a system, the Americans would have to give up something they don't want to give up. Even if you don't take the schooling system into account, Finland is still one of the most developed countries in the world. One should have a look on what the Finnish spend their money on and the Americans don't. Norway is a bad example too. US is a far cry from any of the Scandinavian countries, or even eastern European countries, like it or not.
Enrique C (1 год назад)
The American education system should be modeled after Finland's education system.
Enrique C (1 год назад)
As far as education goes, we should get back to the basics.
Normal Human (1 год назад)
Well I guess I am moving to Finland or something because the US Is SH*T.
W Sammy (1 год назад)
This is very very impressive
jert opp (1 год назад)
Changing peoples perspective on things is one of the hardest things you can do in life. Peoples egos won't allow them to admit they're wrong, even if changing means they'll do better.
Cameron Brown (1 год назад)
We compete in the real world. Yea, the school system here sucks, but because the damn bureaucracy that keeps things the same. Competing to be the best works.we just need to compete on real-world stuff rather than chemistry or gender studies.
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Anne Marita (1 год назад)
I went to school in Finland and can tell that one thing that is a complete lie on this video: The system was NOT horrible before either. I came here 25 years ago and Finland was already ranked number ONE in the world in their educational system. To some people it's hard to admit the certain things just always remain so!
Banyan Tree (1 год назад)
I hope Indian education system learn a thing or two from finish system
No One (1 год назад)
I want to move to Finland when I was 5 so I would have to go to school at 2 years later and it would be amazing I'd get to see my cousins all the time.
Robin Zansen (1 год назад)
come man i welcome you
Ada (1 год назад)
We do have tests but not those super big ones that has "everything you had learned" in theme until end of high school.
Carvel Bettencourt (1 год назад)
This guy is a liberal. Why is he automatically allowed to put words in the mouths of conservatives. We all know our educational institutions are all liberal taught and funded. Cenk is the worse kind of person just dismissing the other sides view and saying it disagrees with their view, with no responsibility of what he says.
MMsensei1 (1 год назад)
Hyvä Suomi! :D
Asha Rani (1 год назад)
As a Indian person I love the system Finland has developed, would love that system to be adopted here.
Michał Sosnowski (1 год назад)
I kindof respect you for that video. BTW Norway has even more trust, they have just shitty policy. So monoculture play a big role, but is not sufficent. It would be even better, if it was not compulsory(meaning mandatory). Who says parents cant teach their kids? If you dont need to pay taxes for schools, more money stay in the pocket and maybe you can afford one parent to stay home. I wonder how it compares to kids who were homeschooled, or unschooled. In like happiness, social skills, conflict resolution skills, enterpreneurship, relationships etc.
marie andrade (1 год назад)
Just one comment' Finland, Norway, Sweden...are NOT all "white" countries. Was there a few times....These countries have experienced a huge influx of immigrants in the last 30 years. They are also taking more refugees that the USA takes. Also college is completly free... No mandated preschool but high quality child care and preschool are available and basically free !!!
Tilus Newman (1 год назад)
USA!!!!
PiiskaJesusFreak (1 год назад)
Also free university education. Government actually pays the students so that they would not have to work while studying. It's a bit different culture than America has.
Richard Denny (1 год назад)
More bullshit from a couple of bullshit spewing idiots... https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/overall-full-list
Gogo gadget skiis (1 год назад)
can a foreigner student study in Finland???
M26 (1 год назад)
Yes they can, if they pay for it. That is new law, if you didn't know.
Robin Zansen (1 год назад)
no it won't cost 10k... foreigners can study in finland
M26 (1 год назад)
Yes, but it can cost you 10k per year.
SlightlyWetFart (1 год назад)
These two twits are so unprofessional
I just want comfortable shoes! (1 год назад)
Why doesn't the American government do a study to find the top 10-20 best educational systems in the world and how different children learn? Then choose 10 school systems in each state across different social and economic lines to test the models and find out which are the best. Lastly encourage the use of the best. If higher and moderately performing school districts do not want to participate in the study, then offer the involvement to the worst performing schools in the nation.
EMILY MADRIGAL (1 год назад)
The US government priority's are somewhat distant from a students education, therefore in order to improve our system more people need to bring attention to other schools around the world and how we could improve our system to make students more successful.
Zoflow 02 (1 год назад)
why dont US use all that is wasted on military and fix the education system, just a little bit of money
marty airey (1 год назад)
the transcriber is illiterate to some degree. :-(
shikamaru nara (1 год назад)
if anyone here thought this is interesting i recommend watching "where to invade next"
shikamaru nara (1 год назад)
why not show some videos or images , while this was interesting to me i still felt likeni was watching the news broadcast maybe economics ... i got a bit bored. this could be constructive criticism , i want to help this channel grow , sorry if i crossed the line with this comment
Falag (1 год назад)
vittu saatana
Jesse Tervonen (1 год назад)
We do have tests when we are 7 year old
aadu paadu (1 год назад)
I live in Finland and I'm in a private school
Darkness (1 год назад)
Torilla tavataan :DD
Daniel Rodas (1 год назад)
you can have a private school in Finland stop taking every thing from Wikipedia
Schleich Master (1 год назад)
I'm Finnish and i han three tests this week. Next week theres two tests. 😀
redneck96100 (1 год назад)
Normal exams, not standardized tests.
Alejandro Flores (1 год назад)
Does this guy not realize that Republicans have been fighting for voucher systems.....exactly the system used in Finland.
Jason Barton (1 год назад)
Finland: Best edu system...we dont need or want competition. U.S.: Our edu system is mediocre... WE ARE NUMBER ONE! (credit to the lazy town song lol)
crebollar60 (1 год назад)
I want to go to Finland. The education system is ruining my life. I was never a kid, it was always just pressure and stress and expectations. I can never rest, and I'm desperate. So if America believes it is the best country in the world, then how can they have such a poor education system? I absolutely despise it's education system!
JuiceMaker (1 год назад)
Look at the camera or the lady, just decide please!
John Mackey (1 год назад)
He said conservative think tank. Bahahahahaa there's not much thinking going on in that group!
Ka Gabriel (1 год назад)
I like how most people perceived socialism is bad but, most socialist countries are always on top 10 in most charts including; most transparent country, country with the best school system, happiest country in the world, etc....
Martin Ukkur (1 год назад)
pisa test 2015 results - http://www.businessinsider.com/pisa-worldwide-ranking-of-math-science-reading-skills-2016-12 In Estonia, we have the same freaking system as Finland and in every subject we are better than USA. Estonia is like a little brother to finland, we work together and develope together. Every right right headed Estonian and Finn knows that USA is brain washed. And we also know that most intelligent folks in USA are usaly people who have served in military. why? Well because they travel. They can see around the box what MOST folks in USA can´t do. USA is not nr1 not even close to it. Hillary the warlord, and dumpTrump were your 2. best candidates for President. What does that say about you USA. NR1 NR1 NR1... goooshhh...
Kurp Carrot (1 год назад)
Estoniaaaaaa!!! not from there but still :)
ArmadilloAlien (1 год назад)
Actually as an American I would really like it if our schools adopted this education system.
kid (1 год назад)
Hint Hint.. @ USA
Angelkidd (1 год назад)
How much is university though? Is it better than the UK? (I mean for finnish citizens btw)
DiW (1 год назад)
I did some googling and it seems to be something about 250€ for basic studies plus 350€ for the subjects you choose freely for one semester. But you need to also pass the test that qualifies you to the university. I don't have any personal experience of it because I'm at the vocational school at the moment. Ps. The prices were for University of Turku so they may vary from university to university. Pps. University of Turku has their page in english also so you can read it by yourself too. http://www.utu.fi/en/Pages/home.aspx
Morgan Franks (1 год назад)
I've attended both private school and public school in America and to be honest, I preferred the public schooling. There's less pressure, and more freedom. And you're not paying 10 - 20 grand a year for it.
Gina Marwa (1 год назад)
I'm really glad someone posted this video.  I took my children out of public school(American public school) in 2016.  They are thriving because of the  methods used in homeschooling are very similar to that of the Finnish.  I don't want my children to feel pressured to compete...I want them to know their purpose in life and be comfortable and happy with who they are.  Homeschooling allows the parent and the child to established how they want to learn more in depth.
banduliinu (1 год назад)
When you hate finnish school and then you watch this. Im like. "Say what ever. You dont wanna come to this noisy and so fuckin loud school"
JESUS CHRIST (1 год назад)
forget school, now u learn everything u need here at the, www. mather of fact, it would solve all of the eduction monetary problems of any system or any child..u goverments all they need to do is create labs where students of any age go and practice n create science models of any thing they r studing at home any time they want and after they master they own education,then in those same labs the teachers can give them its degrees after they paSS A TEST,,see no bull,no books ,no expenses to go every day to school, no need to buy so many clothes to be at school no lunch no teachers to pay for nothing,just study u subjets n line go practice at the labs then get u damn degree,, uupss im sorry 4 that word..see how easy it is..of curse u all know education is a bussiness nothing alse.. peace n love my childs
Ali Akbar Safdari (1 год назад)
Guys can anyone drop me a link for that book by the Finnish education head?
Hira Amjad (1 год назад)
Nice
Accipiter (1 год назад)
almost everyone goes to kindergarten and pre-school in Finland
Tukkimies (1 год назад)
Accipiter Se tarkottaa, että suomessa ennen 7v ei opeteta tyylii matikkaa tai äidinkieltä
Hairysteed (1 год назад)
During my second year in junior high school I spent half a year as an exchange student in Germany and I can't really say that the schools were really that much different from the we have in Finland. Some differences still existed: In Finland the students are on a familiar basis with the teachers, whereas in Germany teachers demand a certain formal modicum of respect. The school that I was attending in Germany was supposed to be more oriented towards natural sciences and in chemistry they were just learning things about organic chemistry that we were already taught years ago in junior high school. I ended up tutoring some of my German classmates. Hohenlohe Gymnasium Öhringen, Ihr seid die beste! :)
Hairysteed (1 год назад)
I'm a Finn, and I have to clear out some of the things said here: 1. We DO have homework. Maybe not as much as in other countries and not everyone does it, but generally students are issued at least about an hour's worth of homework a day. 2. We DO have private schools. They have to abide by the same curricular standards as the public schools and don't really differ much from the public schools. They generally have pretty low tuition fees (about 800$/year) but are mostly funded by the government. They just don't receive funding on the municipal level. 3. Teachers AREN'T paid as well as doctors or lawyers. They are, however, well unionized in Finland and they still make a pretty decent living. Teachers also enjoy benefits such as the longest paid annual leave (over two months). Teachers also have at least a master's degree and the position is seen as relatively prestigious. Teacher education programs are also not the easiest ones to get into. 4. We DO have tests. At the end of each semester teachers conduct tests on the subjects learned. They, however, aren't standardized and are mainly composed by the teachers. At the end of middle school there are also tests that determine what type of high schools you can go to. At the end of high school they also take the national matriculation exams (the ones that go to senior high schools or gymnasia). Universities also have entrance exams
asdfghjkl (1 год назад)
I'm currently studying 10th grade here in the Philippines. I've been schooled abroad my whole life, and I have to say there's a difference with the way they teach, how the time is spent, and how they bring knowledge to one's mind; but all's the same with the concept of competition. Everyone's mind is set on competing and climbing on each other to be the best, and that's something that will be inevitable. Basically, we're all fucked.
Angelina Pérez-Guillochon (1 год назад)
I live in France. The school day starts at 8 and finishes at 5, sometimes 6 in the secondary level. Long lunch. (3 ,hours when my kids were in nursery!) loads of homework, loads of stress. under international scores France doesn't do too well. Teachers are highly educated but very poorly paid and surprisingly there's a great shortage. Education is free and most private schools are very cheap by international standards.
AlaDDin (1 год назад)
And i live in finland btw
AlaDDin (1 год назад)
Well i am in the 8th grade and my school day starts normally at 8 and it ends at 12
Hairysteed (1 год назад)
Well, the 3-hour lunch break pretty much explains it. In junior high school my school day lasted for 6 hours (9 to 15), although we had 15-minute recesses each hour and a ½-hour lunch break at noon.
Antti lepistö (1 год назад)
"We're not going to try for excellence." That's why math lessons were really boring until the 9th grade. You don't really have to pay much attention to get straight A's.
ChickenwingGirl Private (1 год назад)
so true
Nkansah Rexford (1 год назад)
I'm from Ghana. Here, you start school after some months, like *15 months*. You'll be in school until you're somewhere *22*. 1.3 years old, you'll school till about 22 years. Let's do the maths *Stage: years* Creche: 2 Nursery: 2 Kindergaten: 2 [You're 6 to 7 years by now] Primary (grade 1 to 6): 6 Junior High School: 3 Senior High School: 3 [You're 18 now] University: 4 [You're 22 now] [Wanna do masters?] Masters: 2 [You're 24 years now] In general, that's the mathematics, and it just can be +1 or -1 depending on when you start Grade 1 (Primary School) earlier or not, or if you jump grades, which rarely happens. Instead what frequently happens is repeating, so it'll more +1s
Nkansah Rexford (1 год назад)
+Kurp Carrot Exactly!
Kurp Carrot (1 год назад)
White as snow
Nkansah Rexford (1 год назад)
+Kurp Carrot I look like from somewhere else? Just look at my skin!
Kurp Carrot (1 год назад)
Your really from Ghana? wow!
T-Jay (1 год назад)
If I was old enough I would have a live TV broadcast trying to get school systems changed in the U.S.A. I may be in 7th grade, but I know what's going on. We're having disasters that could have easily been avoided. I'm debating running for president in 2040 (if the United States hasn't been destroyed yet).
Erkkipappers (1 год назад)
I went to preschool when i was 5 and and I am from finland
Marianne (1 год назад)
What the heck?? Why are you guys competing????? It's like you want to make sure that students get anxious and don't learn anything...
Josh Hernandez (1 год назад)
"standardized testing is to crude to be used" don't take my word for it, but the creater of standardized testing saying "these test are to crude to be used."
Rafaella Yorke (1 год назад)
Every country should educate students Finland's way
Quiwi Lin Lisolet (1 год назад)
Just to clarify. There's testing, but no standardized tests. Those tests are for teachers to know if the teachings sink in.
渡辺励 (1 год назад)
5:19 NO1‼‼‼‼‼‼‼‼‼‼‼‼ I think your expression is NO1‼‼‼‼‼‼‼‼‼‼‼‼
Grady Gardner (1 год назад)
Bye I'm moving to Finland
Rawed (1 год назад)
LOL "kindergarten, pre-school, cancelling it" Nope, I went trough both kindergarten and pre-school like all of my friends

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