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Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen got slammed with some serious karma while out at dinner. Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian, hosts of The Young Turks, break it down.
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"The activists heckled Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen at the eatery near the White House.
The Trump administration is facing international pressure to drop its new policy of taking migrant children from their parents.
They include babies and toddlers sent to three "tender age" shelters, the Associated Press news agency reports."
Hosts: Cenk Uygur, Ana Kasparian
Cast: Cenk Uygur, Ana Kasparian
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I agree with both arguments, but Ana is right, though any family members should be left alone. The truth is, all of these government officials and politicians like to do their dirt and hide behind the government wall they're shielded by. Obviously the popular vote isn't doing its job. Letting them know that this behavior isn't acceptable seems to be the only way to be heard.
As far as I'm concerned, the Homeland Security Secretary sold her morals. Her feelings should therefore not be taken into account.
Kirsten Nielsen is just the scum of the earth. After a long day of puttin mexican kids in cages she is like this reminds me of something. No not of my own childeren no you kids reminds me of mexican food. So after you all get your bread and water im gonna have a nice mexican dinner.
I am disappointed in Cenk. The *successful* Civil Rights protest were nonviolent but that doesn't mean they were peaceful. Too many people confuse not hitting someone to not shouting at them or disrupting their business.
Cenk is an apologist spy, Anna is the truth. When they split aim with Anna, she’s America. Debtors prison blacks by the ton, what happens to their lives?, their kids when targeted by the Justice system. Protesting against power is ridiculous? Cenk thinks we will be save by those that enslave?
..one other thought, this crowd on the extreme left get closer and closer to wanting chaos in the streets, like
anti-fa thugs battling nazi stormtroopers in 1920s Germany, and even talk close to the edge of violent revolution...but want to disarm the citizens, appeal the 2nd amendment...???? See the disconnect here? Its like the minute men at Lexington and Concord showing up to repel the King's Army with protest signs! Oh, I forgot, if you mention the 2nd amendment, you will be ignored.
I just posted this on Secular Talk and will share this with you since I mentioned you specifically,
Alex Jones is a neo-con dupe for sure and overall jerk and crazy. And what he did at LAX is rude and un-called for, b u t,....of late too many on the left are praising the actions of some protesters who invaded a restaurant to yell at the ICE woman, so what is the difference? Next thing you know Antifa is going to be praised. The program on this by TYT was appalling and Ana I think disgraced herself with this thuggish mentality. As usual in history, the far left will take the cause of liberalism and progress down the dark ally way of extremism which will destroy the movement and once fascism and elitism will triumph....
These republicans are acting like animals. Now when we start retaliating we're the ones that have to stand the moral high ground? If you're going to act like an animal expect to be treated like an animal. Fighting hate with love is impossible with people that will demonize & dehumanize others based on the color of their skin. They need to be shown how much we hate them. Show them their same energy. Don't assume you're going to legitimize a racist ideology when regardless of action or inaction you will still be subjected to that ideology.
So the left is pro bullying and harassment. If this was flipped around it would he " the right harrase a woman with power becaue they are sexist pigs " or something ..
You guys are litterly advocating sending children to prison. And you call us inhumane
I can't fully agree with Anna here. Yes, I think what Nielsen is doing is absolutely morally reprehensible and she deserves to be shamed for it. However, many conservatives find being pro-choice morally reprehensible... wouldn't Anna be upset if pro-choice candidates got their dinner interrupted by angry Christians calling them baby killers. Now, I believe in a woman's right to choose, but I also acknowledged that it would be a double standard to say that right-wingers shouldn't bother an official's dinner over their moral grievances when leftists can.
I STRONGLY disagree with both of you. I would actively encourage people to assassinate Trump and his peons. Comparing it to Obama is disingenuous. Lunatics can think what they think about Obama, but they're objectively wrong. What Trump is doing is ILLEGAL. It's a crime against the country, and against humanity as defined by the UN. The entire world(that matters) is against him.
So I do hope people come at them violently. They are evil, evil people. And they don't care about their meal being disturbed as long as they keep their money. They needed to be ended. Period.
I'm with Cenk....we cannot criticize the right for getting aggressive, immature, etc ..and then do it ourselves. I think that she could have been called out without screaming at a restaurant. Going to her table at the restaurant and, without screaming, but using a voice that others could her, ask her why she was doing what she is doing to children at our border. I think that others would be more likely to listen and understand the protest instead of wondering "Why are these crazies yelling at that woman?"
TYT, Anna is right, what is wrong with you. It's alright to say it wrong as long as you don't need to get your hands dirty? WTF, you neither deserve freedom or human rights if you are not willing to FIGHT for those who can not fight for themselves.
Cenk, tell the people about Tommy Robison? He was reporting on the Arab Gangs in Britain, Arabs like yourself, who were pimping out underaged white children, some as young as 9. Your People in Britain were threatening these girls with weapons, dousing them in gasoline, even acid, and raping them into oblivion. Tommy Robison was arrested for racism, because in your communist, leftist world: Only White People can be called racist. Free Tommy Robison!
It seems fair enough - it's a public place (and in the US the rule seems to be that you have no expectation of privacy while in public areas), and it's a free country where citizen are allowed to protest against government and public figures (at least for now...).
There is a fine red line here though. Certainly I would find harassing people at their home unacceptable, and if someone starts stalking them that's not acceptable because it starts taking on a nature of a personal threat rather than a political protest. Obviously any physical attack, however minor, is also off-limits.
You got to keep your eyes on the ball and be able to separate the
disapproval or disgust of someones political actions and the person
themselves. You are free to attack the former, but the latter has all
the same protections that every other citizen enjoys - and if we erode
those protections it is ultimate to our own detriment.
Ideally you'd want protests and such to take place at their place of work or in an open forum and not during their everyday lives of course - but in a current system where protesters are shoved off to the side and ignored and legitimate grievances are simply not addressed this sort of pressure is often the only option. You can't fix this without having a system in which public officials are compelled to meet with and address those who want to air their grievances. Unfortunately US politics are moving more and more towards a closed system where politicians simply choose not to talk to the public because it's uncomfortable and not politically favorable. That ultimately doesn't fix anything - it just moves public discontentment from an organized controlled format into an uncontrolled one by necessity. And if you go one step further than that and quell such demonstrations by force then you eventually get a uprising or even revolution.
Poor baby had her dinner upset. Too FU__ing bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You have an inhumane policy that sucks, this is what happens for defending a policy of tearing families apart. As far as Civility, are you kidding me? Innocent children being torn from their mothers, this is civilized? No FU__ing way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just remember this, the American People did not start this, but now I.C.E. & D.O.H.S. "Has Awoken A Sleeping Giant" does that sound familiar? It ought to. Those were the exact words that Admiral Yamamoto said about pissing off America after December 7th, 1941. This is not our Legacy. This Legacy squarely belongs on I.C.E., D.O.H.S. & C.I.A. with their Illegal Drug Wars. All 3 Agencies have operated illegally both within the United States & from without the United States. Sheer Numbers are on our side. Long live the U.S. Constitution, Long Live the Republic (which will be restored), Long Live the American Flag, Long Live the Declaration of Independence. Down with the Empire.
as passionate as "they" are in destroying our lives so should we in our fight I would go one step further --if the government crossed that line then the people have the right to remove such government from power i.e. march into the white house and place EVERYONE under arrest for treason!!!!!
New Pew Poll has black support for Trump's zero tolerance policy at over 50%. A majority of legal aliens from all countries also support his policy. Obama built the facilities from 2012-14 and filled them with children and separated families. Where was the outrage then? Trafficking of children is rampant and they are used as pawns and as a get into the US free card. What kind of monsters would support that? This is the biggest bs from the left ever. When the Catholic Church and Cardinal Dolan, the man who shuffled pedophile priests around for decades allowing them to continue to molest and abuse thousands and thousands of children, are screaming think of the children, you've got to know something is rotten.
Would you agree with a bunch of pro-life extremists doing the same thing to an abortion doctor who's eating out at a restaurant?... I bet you would feel differently. This is not how you get people to work with you, it's how you get people to run the other direction away from you.
Cenk, wtf do you mean edge of "physical confrontation" ? She had multiple Secret Service agents there. She is carrying out the most shameful U.S. domestic policy since Japanese internment, she deserves to be publicly shamed. DSA is the only organization this week that resisted properly, and history will look back on this chapter why other groups have chosen to not act similarly.
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